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LMS gold loco and coach insignia

LMS gold loco and coach insignia

LMS gold loco and coach insignia

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Wed 24 May 2017


LMS gold loco and coach insignia

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COACHES 1923-33

From 1923-28 most coaches had LMS in the waist panel near the centre with the number towards each end but rarely at the extreme end in small X serif style figures - LMS in 4" size on most coaches but 3" on many pre-group vehicles with limited waist panel depth and on many non-passenger coaching stock vehicles, e.g., fish and milk vans. From 1929 the number appeared once only towards the right hand end of the coach with L M S towards the left. From 1929.32 the larger 'stretched' shaded numbers were used. The unshaded block numbers were used on renumbered and new coaches from 1932. The round coat of arms was used on many end-door corridor and open coaches (often not on third class coaches) and on most saloons. Dining can etc., with waist panels had the wording in the panel with the coat of arms below. Flush sided coaches had the coat of arms in the lower part of the side with the words spaced either side opt Passenger doors other than on unclassed restaurant can carried class figures 1 or 3. Shaded yellow insignia, (1934.48) is on Sheet 2 and the plain straw 1946-47 block style is on Sheet 2a. The window labels 'SMOKING' cannot be included in this sheet for reasons of space. They are included on Sheet 2. For further information, please refer to 'Locomotive Liveries of the LMS' and 'The LMS Coach' by R.J, Essery and D. Jenkinson.


Locos were numbered in black-shaded figures in 18" size on most larger tenders and tanks of some larger tank engines. Most tank engines and some smaller tenders had 14" size numbers. Red engines had the very small L M S on cabsides during 1923 and the round coat of arms 1924.28. Black engines had the red and gold L M S panel on the cabsides, the concave cornered type being the earlier pattern. Unshaded power class figures represent the brass ones on MR locos - others used the shaded pattern. Tank locos rarely had thorn before 1928, Letters P and F introduced at the same time,


Most red engines had black shaded insignia. some of the Compounds and most lined black engines had red shaded insignia. Unlined black engines not painted at Crewe used black shaded gold transfers. Company identity after 1927 was usually indicated by L M S on the tender. Spacing varied. The largest, 60" centres, was used mainly on Stonier curved top tenders; the next, 53" centres was on most large pre-group tank locos, many Deeley, Fowler and Scottish pro-group benders and Horwich painted tenders. The closest spacing on the sheet, 40" centres, appeared on most ex-LNWR Johnson and Kirtley tenders, some Fowler tenders and on standard 2-6-4T and 2-6-2T locos. On Garratts and small tank locos with 27" or closer spacing cut and fit letters separately. Royal Scots and un-stream lined Pacifies had 14" cabside nos, Princess Royals, Jubilees and most Compounds had 12* . 10" numbers were used on some Compounds, engines with small cabs and at St. Rollox works, on a wide variety of locos. New locos built by Crewe, Derby and outside contractors during 1936-38 and the streamlined used block style insignia. for reasons of space this is included in Sheet 2a, together with the 1946.47 block insignia and the plain straw serif style insignia used by Crewe works on all plain black engines from 1928. NOTE: To save space some of the coats of arms are printed between the loco letters. If the latter are required first, cut through the tissue round the coats of arms so as to leave them on the backing paper. Sheet 2 includes the red-shaded and plain yellow insignia of 1938.47.

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